Republican candidate advocates death penalty for children

[Tora]

I know this is quite late now, but what in God's green earth am I reading? Ridiculous. Taken way out of context and time period. Has this man read the bible? There is a reason for the New Testament. Jesus teaches us to not condemn and to forgive not to judge. We are not God; clearly.

The following depicts why this man is wrong. You don't have to read it or accept it; if your religion is otherwise pay no attention.

Jesus said in John 8:7 "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, 'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.'" He is teaching us not to judge someone on the things they have done, but rather forgive them and show them the light of God. God is to be the judge of a man who does not accept the gift of forgiveness given to man through Jesus.

He says in Romans 2:19 "And 'art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,'" He explains to us that we are the light for those who are blind; in other words he explains that we must reach out to those who are of the darkness or in today's terms who are ungodly. This does not mean to shove our beliefs down the throats of others. Be the light and set the example not force against their God-given free will.

This man's argument is invalid. He quotes the bible in a way that seems to represent what the bible says, but he refrains from the New Testament. In II Timothy Chapter 3:5 we can see the type of person he really is. "They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly..." It describes him very well. The power to forgive he rejects, the teachings of Jesus he rejects. You can't be a guide to the unholy if you kill them.

We cannot condemn every man for their sins or we ourselves should be put to death like them. There is not a sinless man among us therefore who are we to condemn the sinners? For if we condemn the sinners we must in turn condemn ourselves.

[DGFone]

It's the BIBLE get used to it, Tora. Like all religious books, religious men only pick and choose what supports their beliefs, and not the other way around.

The Bible teaches us to respect and let everyone live. The very same book tells us to kill everyone. Don't try to argue with an extremist. Just don't let them get into a position of power.

[Tora]

Call it cherry picking if you must, but shall I quote the whole bible for you?

I don't think you know the same God I know. God does not inspire fear in man. The bible is written by man and therefore does have things that do not belong. God fulfills the bible in the end, because his word is within this bible, but it contains words of Satan, Demons, Angels, and Man as well. The bible is not perfect. Yes I do think there is a lot of things that appear can be interpreted differently. The bible is inspired by God. Just like a movie that is Inspired by a true story it will contain nonfactual things; we must recognize those things.

In the verse this man is referring to, Moses's law addresses the nation of Israel not the gentiles or non-Jews. He doesn't even understand what he is writing. This verse doesn't even talk of "children" in the sense he is trying to express; it says in Deuteronomy 21:20 "This our son is stubborn and rebellous, he will not obey our voices; he is a glutton, and a drunkard," how many children do you know that are "drunkards?" This verse is talking about adult children who are freeloading their parents, and disrespecting them. Secondly the New Testament teaches us love and forgiveness rather than revenge and retribution.

[Dark Huntress]

Call it cherry picking if you must, but shall I quote the whole bible for you?

I don't think you know the same God I know. God does not inspire fear in man. The bible is written by man and therefore does have things that do not belong. God fulfills the bible in the end, because his word is within this bible, but it contains words of Satan, Demons, Angels, and Man as well. The bible is not perfect. Yes I do think there is a lot of things that appear can be interpreted differently. The bible is inspired by God. Just like a movie that is Inspired by a true story it will contain nonfactual things; we must recognize those things.

In the verse this man is referring to, Moses's law addresses the nation of Israel not the gentiles or non-Jews. He doesn't even understand what he is writing. This verse doesn't even talk of "children" in the sense he is trying to express; it says in Deuteronomy 21:20 "This our son is stubborn and rebellous, he will not obey our voices; he is a glutton, and a drunkard," how many children do you know that are "drunkards?" This verse is talking about adult children who are freeloading their parents, and disrespecting them. Secondly the New Testament teaches us love and forgiveness rather than revenge and retribution.

^ That, completely

[Baya]

Call it cherry picking if you must, but shall I quote the whole bible for you?

I don't think you know the same God I know. God does not inspire fear in man. The bible is written by man and therefore does have things that do not belong. God fulfills the bible in the end, because his word is within this bible, but it contains words of Satan, Demons, Angels, and Man as well. The bible is not perfect. Yes I do think there is a lot of things that appear can be interpreted differently. The bible is inspired by God. Just like a movie that is Inspired by a true story it will contain nonfactual things; we must recognize those things.

In the verse this man is referring to, Moses's law addresses the nation of Israel not the gentiles or non-Jews. He doesn't even understand what he is writing. This verse doesn't even talk of "children" in the sense he is trying to express; it says in Deuteronomy 21:20 "This our son is stubborn and rebellous, he will not obey our voices; he is a glutton, and a drunkard," how many children do you know that are "drunkards?" This verse is talking about adult children who are freeloading their parents, and disrespecting them. Secondly the New Testament teaches us love and forgiveness rather than revenge and retribution.

1) "God does not inspire fear in man?" Are you freaking kidding me? I'm sorry, but do you not go to hell if you displease God with sins? So if you don't do what God says, you go to hell right? That's inspiring fear...

2) So you openly admit you are quoting bible verses that have no power and effect because they are technically written be people who cannot interpret God? So basically, your quotes are of no power or effect in any which way. Also, if the bible is what inspires the idea of God as you see him, then how did they write the bible? That sounds like circular reasoning.

3) Seems kind of weird that God would only tell the Israelites a law that would have them eventually brought into better graces...what of the other people that God supposedly created? They aren't good enough to know about the laws that would get them into heaven? Religion holding racial preference for heaven? Who knew?!

4) That word "Us" I don't like. You can say this verse taught ME to love and forgive, but you don't speak for everyone. If you did, there would be no crusades or fanatics who take religion super literally. If the book meant to speak of love and forgiveness, then why is it so easily misinterpreted? It's hard for a Pope to say "Love thy enemy" means love them with your sword, seriously...

5) Generally, bible quotes are not good things to use in a legitimate argument, because the bible is filled with logical contradictions and the whole concept of "God" that Christians assert cannot be proven or disproven. Faith does not = grounds of truth. I can have faith the world is flat...objectively, it has been proven that it is round. You cannot base on argument on logically fallacious reasoning.