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Do we have a link to the SP trailer that showed the original celebration? If so, it would be great to cite that as a source. ~ Moka 10:26, 8 April 2011 (PDT)
- Maybe http://homepage.mac.com/maanerud/movies/simbapridetrailer.mov ? --Nitrol 10:52, 8 April 2011 (PDT)
- Cool, they used the original version of He Lives in You :) I'll cite this video in the article. Nice find! ~ Moka 11:26, 8 April 2011 (PDT)
Not to be rude, but perhaps before undoing the entire edit I made, you should post what you think is wrong on the edit page. Obviously, the paragraph before on the page was very opinionated, which is why I revised it. Remember, that all the articles need to stay neutral of any opinion. Still took out a few things, please use the talk page before editing further, that's what the page is for. --Wildsimba 15:32, 8 April 2011 (PDT)
- I agree -- The articles must stay neutral of opinion. I don't think the article should take a stance on who Fluffy is supposed to be or other external elements such as that. It should focus on Fluffy's scope: the brief 3 seconds we see him/her and the references to him/her such as the statement by the film makers and the SP trailer. You guys need to work together to bring the article to an agreeable neutral state, where bare bone facts are laid out. There can be fan speculation sections, but they need to be done even more professionally. They need to be common theories, concise statements, and courteous to other points of view. ~ Moka 21:40, 8 April 2011 (PDT)
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SBS, there is an official concept sketch from the production of SP that proves they were considering Chaka as a character. ~ Moka 13:14, 12 April 2011 (PDT)
- He thought Chaka wasn't? --Wildsimba 15:35, 12 April 2011 (PDT)
- Actually I haven't found anything to support Chaka. The concept sketch I was thinking about was for Shani. Sorry about that. ~ Moka 17:27, 12 April 2011 (PDT)
- Huh? Chaka does have a concept sketch, it's on the actual DVD for the movie. --Wildsimba 17:48, 12 April 2011 (PDT)
- This is the file I was thinking of:
If you find another concept sketch with Chaka labeled in it, then share it. But I've never seen something like this for Chaka. ~ Moka 20:22, 12 April 2011 (PDT)- Huh? I've never even seen that picture before. They did show concept art for Chaka on the DVD though, if I can find it. --Wildsimba 10:02, 13 April 2011 (PDT)
- This is the file I was thinking of:
- Huh? Chaka does have a concept sketch, it's on the actual DVD for the movie. --Wildsimba 17:48, 12 April 2011 (PDT)
- Actually I haven't found anything to support Chaka. The concept sketch I was thinking about was for Shani. Sorry about that. ~ Moka 17:27, 12 April 2011 (PDT)
Uhhm, okay.
This article is kinda like a TL;DR now. Especially the "Boy, or Girl?" section. Can we perhaps take out a few details, that are over analyzing things? I tried reading it, but hardly understood it, because half the section is talking about dark ear rings, and it's like... What? --Wildsimba 10:26, 13 April 2011 (PDT)
- I doubt it's confusing for a completely new reader. And I'd think if the fan arguments are to be kept in it'd be best to take in all the facts from the film instead of arguing with just a few of them as if they were all there is to it. If it's gotten confusing, I suggest we just ditch the fan arguments completely and be satisfied with what the commentary track and documentaries say and how the sequel film confirms the fruit juice mattter to relate to the gender. As in that we wouldn't throw in any fan point of views whatsoever into it when it comes to the appearance. --Superbabysimba 13 April 2011 (PDT)
- Okay well first of all, the fruit juice thing doesn't prove anything. Most likely, the film makers didn't care enough to have the events in the exact same order during the ceremony. Or, maybe the order doesn't matter at all, and as long as the cub is anointed and presented everyone's happy. Rafiki could've anointed Fluffy after the presentation. To me, the fruit juice argument is just another theory that is dependent on too many opinions. Just because it's your theory doesn't make it fact. That aside, if this article is just going to be filled with random theories like "Timon bit Zira's ear" I think it might be best to just take them all out and stick to the absolute facts and what we know for certain. There can maybe be a fan theories section put in later but right now we apparently can't handle it. ~ Moka 12:38, 13 April 2011 (PDT)
