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Definitions

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April 25th, 2011, 9:50 pm
by Moka
I see people misusing words like "canon" and "semi-canon" a lot, so here's a proposal of some definitions. I put them on the wiki. Tell me what you think!
Canon -
http://www.mylionking.com/wiki/CanonOfficial -
http://www.mylionking.com/wiki/OfficialSemi-canon/Sub-canon - That which is official but not canon.
Unofficial -
http://www.mylionking.com/wiki/UnofficialFanon -
http://www.mylionking.com/wiki/FanonDiagram of how these definitions fit for the characters in The Lion King Universe:
Re: Definitions

Posted:
April 25th, 2011, 10:19 pm
by WildSimba
Wouldn't TLK Six Adventure's be official though, since it bears the Disney logo, and is sold by disney? It's definately a step up from Fan-Fiction, so how would it not be Semi/Sub-Canon?
And... what at Shenzi being in the official section? She's canon, she was in the original film. 0.0
Re: Definitions

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April 26th, 2011, 4:54 pm
by lionkingfreak
thanks moka ! it now proves kopa is not real !
Re: Definitions

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April 26th, 2011, 5:59 pm
by KopsTheTerminator
Wait.. If SP wasn't made by the same directors, doesn't that make it sub-canon? The original directors have denied that those were their views on the continuation of TLK as far as I know.
Re: Definitions

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April 26th, 2011, 6:57 pm
by WildSimba
[quote="lionkingfreak"]thanks moka ! it now proves kopa is not real ![/quote]
It in no way proves he's not real, it just proves that he's not official. Your making it seem like he was never put into existance, which would make it impossible for us to talk about him if he weren't.

What are you trying to prove exactly? Kopa is just as "real" as Simba or anyone else in the series. That's not what is being argued. What's being argued is whether or not he's unofficial or sub-canon.
And it proves nothing yet, even if what you were saying were in some way true. Considering I've already caught an inaccurate part of the chart, because Shenzi is not an "official" character, but a canon character, because she was in the original film.
Re: Definitions

Posted:
April 26th, 2011, 7:02 pm
by KopsTheTerminator
How is she not an official character?
Re: Definitions

Posted:
April 26th, 2011, 7:11 pm
by WildSimba
She wouldn't fit in that section she's in with the SP caracters. She's canon, because she was in the original film. Yes she's official, but she needs to be in the canon section.
Re: Definitions

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April 27th, 2011, 6:40 pm
by SophieCub
[quote="WildSimba"][quote="lionkingfreak"]thanks moka ! it now proves kopa is not real ![/quote]
It in no way proves he's not real, it just proves that he's not official. Your making it seem like he was never put into existance, which would make it impossible for us to talk about him if he weren't.

What are you trying to prove exactly? Kopa is just as "real" as Simba or anyone else in the series. That's not what is being argued. What's being argued is whether or not he's unofficial or sub-canon.
And it proves nothing yet, even if what you were saying were in some way true. Considering I've already caught an inaccurate part of the chart, because Shenzi is not an "official" character, but a canon character, because she was in the original film.[/quote]
^ This
Re: Definitions

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April 27th, 2011, 7:35 pm
by DGFone
I would assume that all the characters in SP, the comics and the Lion King: Six New Adventures are all either "official" or "Unofficial" simply because while they all come from different creators, they are all made from some sort of subdivision in Disney, and seeing as Disney made The Lion King, they all fit in the same category of "made by owner". Just because SP is a full 90 minute movie doesn't make it any more official than TLK:6NA. Both are made by Disney, and both are in the same universe. They both have the same claim for legitimacy.
The comics might have a harder case to prove, but they are also made by Disney, and therefore should also fall into the same group.
Re: Definitions

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April 27th, 2011, 7:44 pm
by WildSimba
[quote="DGFone"]I would assume that all the characters in SP, the comics and the Lion King: Six New Adventures are all either "official" or "Unofficial" simply because while they all come from different creators, they are all made from some sort of subdivision in Disney, and seeing as Disney made The Lion King, they all fit in the same category of "made by owner". Just because SP is a full 90 minute movie doesn't make it any more official than TLK:6NA. Both are made by Disney, and both are in the same universe. They both have the same claim for legitimacy.
The comics might have a harder case to prove, but they are also made by Disney, and therefore should also fall into the same group.[/quote]
Exactly. And as Kops said, the creators of the original actually denied that SP was how they would of continued TLK. Meaning SP is unofficial too, if TLK6NA is, because it was never confirmed by the original creators.