Who is Simba and Nalas first born

[gothprincesskiara]

Im taking this from the Lion Guard discussion, WHO IS THIS THEN?

[Ninaroja]

Kiara


She is the only 100% official canon Disney property legit certified proper real existing cub Sumba and Nala have (pre TLG)

THERE IS NO KOPA


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[Gemini]

It's Kiara.

[Ninaroja]

Kopa is not now and never will be canon. The TLK6NA are not canon. By all means let them be a part of your fanon but they are NOT canon official. I remember a similar disagreement like this over the T&P show...

[Carl]

Let me show you something.

[quote="TheLionPrince"]Now, to answer your question, there is a storybook that describes "Fluffy" as a female. Here is the scanned page of a Lion King storybook. And Andrew Collins (the lead animator of Kovu) confirmed in an Australian edition of the Disney Adventures magazine was asked "What's the major difference between this film and the original?" He answered, "It takes off where the first one left off with a twist - you think it's a king but it's a queen!" Click here for the article: Africa Down Under.[/quote]

Click on that second link. Read the post thoroughly.

The creators said that it is Kiara at the end of the first film. "It takes off where the first one left off with a twist- you think it's a king but it's a queen!"

That tells us that this is Kiara. Also, look at this. Kiara is color matched to the first movie and looks almost exactly like Fluffy.

[juhouh]

Kiara

[gothprincesskiara]

I always forget that fact and I just dont want to accept that its not Kopa, yes I can be very stubborn, its just the differences between the end of TLK 1 and Kiaras birth ceremony, those feature differences just bother me. I can never get over that. Im just one of those people who don't like screw ups and then they just leave it as....oh well, ok i will shut up now.

[S1mb4 D4 L10n]

Where exactly was the screw up? I don't think Fluffy negates Kiara, and it certainly doesn't prove Kopa to be canon.

[gothprincesskiara]

its those black rims around the ears, kiara doesn't have those in TLK2, there is also a color difference and the appearance is not close enough, yes im being nit picky on details here

[Carl]

Like the deviantArt image I linked showed, if the second movie shared the colors of the first one (which it doesn't, just look at Simba and Nala) then there would not be a color difference. Yeah the ear rims are missing, but it's not a screw-up, not really. At the end of the first movie, they gave Simba a cub to show the completion of the Circle of Life. When they decided to make a movie about said cub, they deliberately modified the design so that she wouldn't look exactly like her father.