My Lion King Forum

I was recently watching The Nostalgia Critic's review of The Lion King (which you can find here ) , and a certain part of the review drew my attention.

[quote=" Nostalgia Critic "] I guess the moral of the story is "never take responsibility for what you've done because nobody will be behind you unless it turns out you didn't really do it". Yeah, how is this confronting his past? It's a past that never happened, so it doesn't matter. And even when he thought it did happen, the movie didn't support him, almost as if the film was saying if he did accidentally kill his father he deserves to die. Nobody's on his side until he comes out and says "haha wasn't me", and, I'm sorry, that's a serious flaw. [/quote]

So what do MLK people think of this? The way I see it, even though I agree that yes it was facing up to "a past that never happened", the main point of Simba's return was not only that, but to take responsibility as the rightful King (which he knew all along he was) and to confront his fear of going back (someday I'll go into detail on my "Simba has anxiety/PTSD theory).

Open to the floor, as they say

Am I stupid or what? I didn't catch the point of this video (seems like I've disliked it before as well). He just keeps telling the story and says his personal opinion. That's all

I don't think that the pride was necessarily "against" Simba until it was magically revealed that he was innocent the entire time. After all, when that was revealed, they pounced, meaning that they were ready to do so already. All it meant was that they were somewhat uncertain, which in RL anyone would be.

How would you feel risking everything by gambling it on an admitted murderer? The pride was ready to fight with Simba against Scar no matter what. It was only that the revealing that Scar was the one responsible all along eliminated any hesitation they had, as well as exploding the hatred they had for Scar to the point of attacking.

Actually, the moral of TLK is that the older brother always knows best, and if you think you can do a better job, you're probably evil.

[quote="Regulus"]Actually, the moral of TLK is that the older brother always knows best, and if you think you can do a better job, you're probably evil.[/quote]

Won't that mean that the real moral is don't listen to trolls?

The pride would certainly be more confused rather than against Simba. For years, Scar told them that Simba and Mufasa perished in a wildebeest stampede, but when it turns out that Simba is alive, Scar completely changes the story to make them believe Simba caused the wildebeest stampede that killed Mufasa. If Scar knew that Simba "accidentally" killed Mufasa, then why didn't he tell them that version of the story instead? Easily, the pride should notice that both stories are contradictory (given Simba is alive), but Scar hardly gives them adequate time to sort out what really happened outside of the allotted time Sarabi questions Simba's testimony.

Given the lionesses' shocked faces and Nala's reaction to Simba dangling from Pride Rock's edge, they still expressed concern for him, but Scar's final admission to being the real murderer gave them the extra push to support Simba, which they had along.

Since the lionesses never once acted like they weren't ready to support Simba, I have to disagree with his disingenuous assertion.

I think The Lion King is the best movie ever made, but I can kinda see what Doug (Nostalgia Critic) is coming from. Still a great movie.

Well the lionesses were completely ready to help him but the scene where simba faces scar is just a chain of shocking events for them , naturally they had to be stunned.

- simba is still alive
- simba is challenging scar
- simba killed his father

What they all believed comes crashing down but then :

-Oh no that was scar who killed mufasa.

The moment of doubt is over , scar must face what he did in the past and the lionesses pounce on the hyenas to support their rightful leader