My Lion King Forum

Hello,

I've seen many websites saying that Zoe Leader was one of the additional voices in Simba's Pride, and this leads some people to conclude that Sarafina appeared somewhere in the movie.

However, I just had a look at my SP DVD and scrolled through the credits looking for her name...and I couldn't find it anywhere. There are two sections titled Additional Voices, and Zoe Leader isn't listed in either. To make things even more suspicious, look at the SP credits on IMDB. Zoe Leader's name is there, but the field where her role would be listed is blank.

Was Zoe Leader simply not credited, or was the fact that she was one of the voices in SP never really a fact to begin with?

I didn't find her name in the credits either, although I'm fairly certain that she was one of the unseen lionesses that spoke up during the presentation right before Kiara's first hunt. So I guess they just either forgot to give her credit or she just didn't have a major enough role to earn a spot in the credits this time around. ^^

I think I read somewhere that Zoe Leader was listed in the credits for SP.. I was so happy about Sarafina (possibly) appearing in SP, I’ve never actually checked the credits for myself.

It’s really odd that Zoe Leader is listed in the SP credits on IMDB, but with a blank role.. Perhaps she did additional voices? *really wants to believe the lioness saying "my how youve grown" is Sarafina* lol

Sorry if I waited too long to bump this thread, but I'd kind of like to get to the bottom of this little problem:

[quote="KiarasMate"]I didn't find her name in the credits either, although I'm fairly certain that she was one of the unseen lionesses that spoke up during the presentation right before Kiara's first hunt. So I guess they just either forgot to give her credit or she just didn't have a major enough role to earn a spot in the credits this time around. ^^[/quote]
I don't mean to be mean to you, but if Zoe Leader really was one of the additional voices and she wasn't credited in the final product, I'd expect to see a really good explanation as to why she was left uncredited instead of just a hunch that she voiced one of those lionesses. I'm kind of a stickler that way.

[quote="PrincessKiara"]It’s really odd that Zoe Leader is listed in the SP credits on IMDB, but with a blank role.. Perhaps she did additional voices? *really wants to believe the lioness saying "my how youve grown" is Sarafina* lol[/quote]
As I said in the first post, I looked in the two Additional Voices sections in SP's credits, and neither one lists Zoe Leader. To make things even more suspicious, the only thread on the IMDB message board for Zoe Leader was started by the person who wrote her biography (who is obviously a TLK fan, judging by his email address), and he starts the thread by saying that Sarafina is the "My, how you've grown!" lioness.

The problem is that that lioness looks nothing at all like Sarafina. Not only are her colors are completely different, but so is the shape of her face. Even if you changed her colors, she would look completely different than Sarafina (here's a picture where Nadra put this to the test).

I'm starting to suspect that this was an unintentional mistake that ran rampant...

Well, considering Zoe Leader is not listed in the credits, I guess we must conclude that she didn’t voice any character in SP. If she had, she would have appeared in the credits, right? There’s no way they’d forget anyone or leave anyone out, no matter how few lines they had.

And of course the lioness speaking in SP looks nothing like Sarafina, as I’m well aware of..
The sad fact is that Sarafina is such a minor and "unimportant" character to the story, there would be no real need to add her in SP. Sarabi didn’t appear either, but her voice talent past away, but they could still have made Sarabi appear with a different voice actor if they wanted to.

this is confusing
She's in credits in one version, but not in the credits in another?

[quote="QueenSummer"]this is confusing
She's in credits in one version, but not in the credits in another?[/quote]
No -- as far as I know, Zoe Leader isn't listed in the credits of any of the SP DVDs. The only places where she is listed in the SP credits are various websites.