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Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 10:23 am
by Elton John
As you've probably heard... It has been on the news everywhere that Cecil the Lion, Zimbabwes most famous lion was hunted and killed by an american.

There is some good news, his 22 cubs are being protected by one of his brothers. It would make an already bad situation much worse if this didn't happen.

While i'd never condone such a horrific act, I don't agree with the way social media 'justice' types have been handling this. Then again I always find it very hypocritical when social media types shame bullies as it is a kind of bullying itself so I have been soured on the way they unthinkingly handle things.

And if there's one good thing about this news, it is getting people to think about, even if just a little bit, on the way our conservation efforts could be better.

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 1:40 pm
by SlayerOfLight
People just fake-rage over the killing of a lion so they can feel like a ''good'' person. In a few weeks everyone probably forgot about it and move on with life. And yea, I don't really care about Cecil's death. Innocent people get murdered everyday and no one cares about that, so I have no idea what makes a lion's life more valuable than a man's life.

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 2:09 pm
by juhouh
I agree with Nick. We don't concertrate enough on core of the problem but single cases. Won't help anything

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 5:58 pm
by DGFone
Here is what I have to say about the hysteria about Cecil's killing:

Who are you going to direct your anger towards?

A: One person who paid a lot of money (about $55000) to make what they believed was a legal, and for a lack of a better term, sustainable kill. Except that the kill ended up being illegal, and when they realized that, they immediately reported it to the authorities and so now everyone know who did it.

B: The countless of individuals who regularly make illegal kills knowingly and get away with it because they know better than to report to the authorities that they are the ones supplying the black market with endangered animal parts. Along with the fact that they don't care about the sustainability of their killing, they make a profit off of the kills, rather than giving much needed money to the governments that can help recovery efforts.

So in the end, I have this stern opinion: Shame on everyone who insist that we need to go and murder Cecil's killer. Their anger is completely and entirely misguided and they need to stop going after the easy targets in order to feel better for promoting 'social justice'.

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 8:08 pm
by Elton John
I agree with nicholas and juhouh, most of the anger is fake and will be easily forgotten.

And while I think he should be punished, killing him would be going too far. We aren't savages so using draconic punishments like hammurabi's 'an eye for an eye' code is not a very good one.

But I do think conservation efforts should be taken seriously. I just don't think more killing is a justifiable punishment.

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 8:20 pm
by SlayerOfLight
Funny enough no one seems to care about the idiots responsible for taking down MH17 (which costed the lives of 298 people) still not been arrested and brought to trial, but killing a single lion is enough to earn you the wrath of nearly entire America and the whole world...

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 9:02 pm
by Elton John
Fantastic, cecils brother was just poached and now the cubs will probably die.

These poaching aholes deserve a strong punishment. Not death, but something that will send a message to them and other would be poachers that this isn't tolerable.

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 9:29 pm
by DGFone
[quote="Elton John"]Fantastic, cecils brother was just poached and now the cubs will probably die.
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Along with only adding strength to my post as to who really is at fault here, apparently the brother is not actually dead. GPS tracking shows him alive and well.
http://nypost.com/2015/08/01/cecil-the- ... -poachers/

Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 10:19 pm
by Iberian
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Re: Cecil the Lion.

PostPosted: August 1st, 2015, 10:53 pm
by Regulus
Fun fact: the best way to instil justice is to kill everyone who disagrees with you or does something bad.