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The end of modern physics as we know it?

PostPosted: September 22nd, 2011, 7:28 pm
by DGFone
Something interesting I found: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

Will we have to redefine everything we know about physics, or is it some kind of analysis/computer data collection error?

Because if this experiment can be reproduced multiple time successfully, it will mean that the entire past century of physics advancement used an assumption that s wrong.

Re: The end of modern physics as we know it?

PostPosted: September 23rd, 2011, 11:06 pm
by Misiziri
Oh, DGFone you beat me to it! I just heard this on the news. Sounds fascinating, it wouldn't surprise me if the law was broken however.

Re: The end of modern physics as we know it?

PostPosted: September 24th, 2011, 5:43 am
by MWIN
Highly likely a calculation error somewhere, still a very interesting read and it wouldn't have been the first time Physics as we know it would have been thrown into disarray.

"besides we put man on the moon using the physics we have today, it has already been proven right, I don't think you can disprove it anymore."

You do realize scientists are discovering new things all the time? We put man on the moon largely using Newtonian physics, which even at the time was known to have made incorrect assumptions about how the universe works at a very small scale. If the observed reality differs from written physics, physics can be rewritten, thats its point.

Re: The end of modern physics as we know it?

PostPosted: September 28th, 2011, 2:16 am
by BlitzRogue
Personally, I'm withholding judgement until it's been put through peer review.

Regardless, even if it does turn out to be correct, it's not going to be "shattering" anything. Relativity will remain intact. E will still equal MC squared. The only adjustment that will need to be made is in respect to these particles; they're the exception, not the new rule.

Re: The end of modern physics as we know it?

PostPosted: October 3rd, 2011, 9:56 pm
by BlitzRogue
woeler1 wrote:however if this were true ''c'' would not be the maximum speed meaning this formula has to be corrected.
It would also prove that time travel is in theory possible.

Yes, the equation would need a quantum adjustment in the "faster-than-light" neutrino frame of reference, but the theory itself would be in no danger.

Re: The end of modern physics as we know it?

PostPosted: October 4th, 2011, 5:08 pm
by BlitzRogue
woeler1 wrote:That's true, I think that the newspapers are making an exaggeration, they don't know sh*t about physics. It really makes me angry that they are feeding the world false info!

Yeah, it's all just about getting a good story for them. And obviously, "THEORY OF RELATIVITY MIGHT BE WROOOONG???" sounds more exciting than, "Adjustment may need to be made to equation in the Theory of Relativity."

My only issue is that it's being blown way out of proportions, especially considering the neutrinos have only been calculated as "faster-than-light" once. Like I said, I withhold judgement until this goes through some serious peer review. And if it turns out to be accurate, then I'll let the physicists do what they do best: revise and rework the system until we've got a more precise view of how it all works. :)