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With Oscar season rolling around, which one of these two giants would you pick?

For me, as it is with a lot of people, it's a matter of personal preference. Having seen them both (although obvious I'm an HTTYD fan... *notes signature and fanfics*) I can honestly say they're both outstanding films that I wish had been released in different years so they could both win.

I like them for different reasons. Toy Story three was definitely the funnier of the two in my opinion. It's not that HTTYD wasn't funny, it has its moments, but Toy Story clearly focused more on incorporating jokes and humor into the script. Toy Story also reunited us with the icons of our childhood, Woody and Buddy, and they were in fine, no, excellent form throughout the movie. It was very well written, voice acting was superb and animation was just about flawless. The story was touching and moving (if a bit melancholy for my tastes) and the theme of growing up but remembering the good times couldn't be more relevant to a kid at a boarding high school going to college in the future. Also, TS3 wasn't, in my opinion, a kid's movie. This gave it some leeway to cut out parts of the script that a 'kid's movie' needs to appeal to its audience. Its greatest weakness in my opinion was the long drawn out epilogue; I sort of felt like there were 20 extra minutes of tearjerking added onto the end, so much that I was nearly numb when the credits popped up.

I thought HTTYD was a different beast (no pun intended). Its greatest weakness in my opinion was that it was billed as a 'kid's movie'. There are characters that are unabashedly one-dimensional, (irritating stud, nerdy kid, bickering twins, etc) and there are jokes and parts of the script that are cheesy or childish simply because they had to be present to appeal to that audience. Beyond that, I thought Toothless and Hiccup were deep characters that I quickly gave a damn about and genuinely worried about. The themes of going against society, prejudice, friendship, and, at the very end, the consequences of war couldn't have been more mature. The score was (no offense to Randy Newman fans) on a whole different plane than TS3 and I believe is up for best score. The script was brilliant with a number of subtle parallels if you look for them, and the animation was superb.

So two great movies! TS3 will win the Oscar because it's Pixar and because it's Toy Story. But what do you guys think? :3

I will never get why people say "In my opinion" it is not like I clicked the thread thinking you were giving someone else's. Anywayyyy...
Maybe it is because I grew up with the films, and I like the nostalgia of the film but really, if toy story 3 does win it then I think it deserves it over HTTYD.
I have seen both and I think Toy Story 3 wins, the story is better, I found HTTYD good in that aspect too but just a bit too predictable the whole time.
I do agree with what you are saying about the score though, it is rather fantastic!

As for what you said about the epilogue being drawn out in Toy Story 3, he had to give them away (spoilers bla bla the films been out a while now) I would agree but, it was needed to some degree, because it was closure (presume it was the last TS film) so if that did not happen then it would not have been as special a film I think.
And yeah Toy Story three was funnier, and that to me makes it more entertaining to watch and thus the better film of the two. HTTYD tries to hard to just tell a story that it just feels quite bland, what I will say is that if best animation is focused solely on which film had the better animation, pffft HTTYD wins hands down because some of the scenes were really beautiful. But as a film, Toy Stoweeee :D

Neither, I'd pick The Illusionist.

[quote="FlipMode"]I will never get why people say "In my opinion" it is not like I clicked the thread thinking you were giving someone else's. Anywayyyy...
Maybe it is because I grew up with the films, and I like the nostalgia of the film but really, if toy story 3 does win it then I think it deserves it over HTTYD.
I have seen both and I think Toy Story 3 wins, the story is better, I found HTTYD good in that aspect too but just a bit too predictable the whole time.
I do agree with what you are saying about the score though, it is rather fantastic!

As for what you said about the epilogue being drawn out in Toy Story 3, he had to give them away (spoilers bla bla the films been out a while now) I would agree but, it was needed to some degree, because it was closure (presume it was the last TS film) so if that did not happen then it would not have been as special a film I think.
And yeah Toy Story three was funnier, and that to me makes it more entertaining to watch and thus the better film of the two. HTTYD tries to hard to just tell a story that it just feels quite bland, what I will say is that if best animation is focused solely on which film had the better animation, pffft HTTYD wins hands down because some of the scenes were really beautiful. But as a film, Toy Stoweeee [/quote]
Because otherwise it's saying you think that's the end of the argument, I.E. Toy Story is the best movie ever sounds like I think everyone should think that and that's the bottom line, end of the story. In my opinion just kinda reiterates that it's just my opinion and not a 'fact', if you will. ^^

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I am absolutely astounded by Pixar's magnificent achievment. Even my parents and classmates said it was an amazing film. It's so heart-drenchingly delightful and of course, beautifully animated!

They're both great, but if I have to choose... I'm sorry, Pixar, I really am, but How To Train Your Dragon is without a doubt my favourite film of last year. (Tangled doesn't really count as in most of the world it wasn't released in 2010 xP.)

I... I never thought I'd see the day when I'd pick a Dreamworks film over a Pixar production 0_0

I would pick TS3 any day. Not to insult HTTYD but honestly... it seemed like a tear-jerker to me. For those of you who don't know what that term means, it basically refers to something that operates mainly by trying to bring out intense sorrowful emotions and, in a lot of cases, include quick transitions from sad to happy and vice-versa. Filmmakers know that audiences will often come back for more if they associate the film with strong emotions, and especially a variety of those.

But that is kind of the point of some stories, guess it comes down to preference on if you like that kind of story telling. On that note: I usually do but not in HTTYD, I think it needed better developed characters to really achieve that aim.

[quote="SnowyCheetah"]I would pick TS3 any day. Not to insult HTTYD but honestly... it seemed like a tear-jerker to me. For those of you who don't know what that term means, it basically refers to something that operates mainly by trying to bring out intense sorrowful emotions and, in a lot of cases, include quick transitions from sad to happy and vice-versa. Filmmakers know that audiences will often come back for more if they associate the film with strong emotions, and especially a variety of those.[/quote]
HTTYD was a tearjerker? TS3 had a 20 minute long ending after the story resolved itself for purely tearjerking purposes. =P