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Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 7:30 am
by Woeler
This contest is and has always been about contributions to the forum. It has completely derailed and that is why these rules are going to be applied.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 7:56 am
by FlipMode
Not really. It was like that back before you joined as WS said when we had awards for RP, graphics designers, fan fiction etc.
it was changed to MotM to make it more open and give people who are just awesome a chance to be nominated, it made nominations less restricting and this makes them restricting again. I mean you know I can't nominate you now because I consider us to be friends lol.

I probably don't really expect someone who is so openly narcissistic to understand the point I am trying to make here to be honest.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 9:30 am
by InsaneSeagull
I must say I agree to FlipMode.

Even though, MoTM needed change, I don't think it was the best way to do so. When I give reasons to nominate members, I usually do so because I consider those reasons proper. And I think "friendly" and "good friend" are very good reasons. I mean, it's forum and good people make good forum. It's simple.

And it's not like I (or anyone here) nominate only my friends. Even so, when we say "good friend", we usually mean friendly person in general, which is objective.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 11:07 am
by AdAstrĪ±
The problem is that this has become (or has, perhaps, always been to some extent) a popularity contest, so I understand why these changes are needed.

Of course being friendly/a good friend are good, if not essential, qualities for someone to have on a forum like this one, so I definitely see where you guys are coming from as well.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 5:08 pm
by FlipMode
[quote="AdAstra"]The problem is that this has become (or has, perhaps, always been to some extent) a popularity contest, so I understand why these changes are needed.[/quote]

I don't think so. Almost every winner thread gets "You totally deserved it" kind of replies. Anyone who has won it deserved to win it, that's why we have nominations and voting.
Saying it is a popularity contest implies past winners didn't win fairly which, well is a bit harsh to say the least.

And one more thing, this is from the October 2012 nominating thread...

[quote]- You can now nominate up to 5 people
- Only members that have been on the forum actively for 3 months can be nominated
- Reasons MUST be given and be a good reason (Don't just nominate your friends)[/quote]

We already had this rule anyway so it was literally pointless in making this thread, in the announcements section no less. You announced a thing we already had?

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 5:36 pm
by AdAstrĪ±
I'm not saying that everyone who has won didn't deserve it, what I mean is that there are other members who also contribute and don't get any real recognition for it, which I think is a little bit wrong. This hasn't always been the case every single month, but I've seen it happen several times and it always bugs me because I don't think it should work that way. People should vote based on what they feel the person in question has actually contributed to the forum, and not necessarily on how well they know him/her. If that makes any sense at all.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 5:38 pm
by ScarsLove
[quote="AdAstra"]I'm not saying that everyone who has won didn't deserve it, what I mean is that there are other members who also contribute and don't get any real recognition for it, which I think is a little bit wrong. This hasn't always been the case every single month, but I've seen it happen several times and it always bugs me because I don't think it should work that way. People should vote based on what they feel the person in question has actually contributed to the forum, and not necessarily on how well they know him/her. If that makes any sense at all.[/quote]

This.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 5:39 pm
by DGFone
What I feel the contest came down to was not how well a member contributed to the forum, but as you guys said: a popularity contest. Or: Who is not bogged down by homework and other stuff enough to get on Skpye/MSN/ect. everyday and talk to a lot of people.

This contest shouldn't be about who has the most free time to socialize with everyone as much as who used the most out of what time they do have to make the forum better.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 5:57 pm
by Woeler
[quote="DGFone"]What I feel the contest came down to was not how well a member contributed to the forum, but as you guys said: a popularity contest. Or: Who is not bogged down by homework and other stuff enough to get on Skpye/MSN/ect. everyday and talk to a lot of people.

This contest shouldn't be about who has the most free time to socialize with everyone as much as who used the most out of what time they do have to make the forum better.[/quote]
Yep, couldn't have said it in a better way.

Re: Rulechanges MoTM

PostPosted: February 4th, 2013, 6:10 pm
by ScarsLove
I know I already posted before but I think I might as well make a post stating my opinion in more depth. While members are what makes the community, I don't think we should just name someone MotM because they're a good friend. I sort of agree with Flip that that can also make them a good, friendly person. But every member I've come across on this forum has been a nice, friendly person so far. I haven't spoken to someone that I couldn't stand on this forum yet. So if we're basing the future MotM off of traits like 'friendliness and likeability' then don't you think everyone on here should have a chance at it instead of the select few that get voted in every month.

It just seems to me that the MotM should be determined by more than just being a nice person. I've nominated people before that have honestly helped me out with their advice. I will admit I did throw in there that they were indeed a good friend. But I gave more of a reason than just that. I gave mentions that they're supportive and willing to help others in need of advice. That's a good thing to help contribute in my opinion. Alot of the mentions I've seen all appear to be 'well so and so and I had a few good laughs and conversations. I'll nominate them because they're my buddy and I think they're nice.' That's fine and dandy but have they actually contributed anything to the forums besides being nice? Members make the forums but it's contributions that count not

[quote="DGFone"]who has the most free time to socialize with everyone[/quote]

as DGFone said. It's nothing but a popularity contest.