Debating, Discussing and whats the difference?

[Woeler]

Ok so I personally have run into a problem. We have a section called ''World Issues'' Where everything is being posted that is discussable/debatable.

I think there might be some problem with this because there clearly is a difference between Debating and Discussing.

Discussing: This is where you give your views and arguments for it and discus it. This is not meant for proving each other wrong.

Debating: This is where you try and counter other people their arguments.

I see a lot of topics getting replies in which people do debate, but there are many people in there and it gets all messed up and confusing. Also there are people who do not want to get into a debate and just post their views. Then there is this issue when there is a debate and two or three people start arguing about one little side-topic within the actual topic (e.g. the Iran thing in the Election thread)

Wouldn't it be more easy if we had a subsection in the den called debates and then have two subsections: Private debates and Public debates. The world issues will just be a discussion forum.

Advantages:
People won't get confused
Side issues can be taken to the private debating forum
People who don't want to debate don't get to debate or get involved
Resolve the ''drama and locking topics'' issue that has been going on for some time (which personally annoys me a lot)

Just a thought, I think it might organize things a bit better.

[quote="FlipMode"]What about a debating society user group with its own part of the forum? o.o[/quote]

[Tora]

I agree I think there needs to be a place for debate other than a PM.

[FlipMode]

What about a debating society user group with its own part of the forum? o.o

[Woeler]

[quote="FlipMode"]What about a debating society user group with its own part of the forum? o.o[/quote]
Added, good idea!

[FlipMode]

To expand a bit on that actually, by "debating" I mean anything that is an opinionated discussion on an important matter, I know that could be classed as any thread but use your common sense; it would be for thing that are relatable to topics such as politics, religion and race, ethics, culture, science ( since it links to religion a lot) that kind of thing, basically any mature and / or deep subject.

[TheLionPrince]

Even though I may disagree with your political views, Woeler, I agree that debates and discussions are quite different, and need to be separated on this forum.

[Moka]

Before we get too riled up about this, I would like to remind everyone that this is a Lion King forum, not an all-purpose forum. There are forums out there more suited for handling debates over controversial topics such as politics and religion.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/forum.php
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/

What the World Issues forum exists for is discussing current world events, not debating. It says so in the forum description.

[FlipMode]

Ah okay that makes sense :)
I do think the description could be re written to make that clearer though. And I get what you are saying; I mean if the kind of thought that goes into the debates in the OT section; if all that time and energy was put into the TLK sections they would be back to their former glory. I think amongst all the dramas and stuff we all forgot why we joined in the first place :D

[Woeler]

is this off the table just because "this is a lion king forum"? Still seems like a good idea to me..
I mean, even minecraft has its own section now so this is not at all a ridiculous idea.

[FlipMode]

'craft is playing a game with fellow members co operatively; debating is openly inviting those same people to argue with you... I know which one of those sounds more appropriate to me.
We have debates in the world issues forum as it is; even though moka already said not to lol