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Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 4:58 am
by Panda-chan
[quote="WildSimba"][quote="Amanda"][quote="SimbaKovu"]No, thank you. I'll be voting for Ralph Nader or the Green Party if at all, thank you very much.[/quote]
omg chill out lol, that was meant to be a joke.

In other news, several sites such as Google, Reddit, 4chan, Wordpress, and Yahoo are participating in the blackout. Wouldn't it be pretty cool if MLK did so as well? :) It should only last about 12 hours, and the link is right here if Moka is interested: http://sopastrike.com/#how-to-strike[/quote]

I'd rather not my entire internet be blocked out for 12 hours.

kthxbi[/quote]
>implying MLK is your entire internet
lolol

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 5:05 am
by SnowyCheetah
I'm not sure MLK going down would do much, since most people here have already made up their minds about the bill lol

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 5:07 am
by Ultra Fox
MLK might be going down?

There's no point. No one other than MLK's members will notice, and everyone already knows that SOPA sucks.

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 2:33 pm
by Wrightfan
[quote="SimbaKovu"][quote="Wrightfan"]Guess I'm the only one who thinks this is the biggest overreaction ever.

The anti-sopa side is engaging in fear mongering...they're just calling it something different.[/quote]

Seriously?! SOPA would grant the Justice Department the power to take offline any website that either has or links to copyrighted material, OR even contains links to OTHER sites which may have copyrighted material, all at the behest of the companies that are claiming copyright on the content. Also, and this is perhaps most important, the companies submitting the requests to the Justice Department to shut down these websites would not even have to prove that the material in question was being used illegally. So, in effect, the site could be using or linking to copyrighted material in complete compliance with Fair Use guidelines, and STILL be shut down!

Let me put it another way: You know the TLK emoticons on the right-hand side of the Post A Reply page? Well, under SOPA, Disney would have the ability to require the Justice Department to shut down MLK for unapproved use of those images from the TLK films as emoticons, even though their use in that context falls safely within Fair Use parameters. Doesn't that strike you as frightening?[/quote]

You know that if a company requests something to be taken down, the person does have the opportunity to present his case right? Also, nobody is going to jail despite what the American Censorship day site says.

Even if it did pass (and it really looks like it won't and this will end up being a super over reaction), it'll be tied up in the supreme court for years.

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 3:42 pm
by Ultra Fox
[quote="Wrightfan"] You know that if a company requests something to be taken down, the person does have the opportunity to present his case right?[/quote]
You know that's exactly what SOPA's trying to destroy, right?

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 7:34 pm
by Wrightfan
[quote="NEStalgiaFox"][quote="Wrightfan"] You know that if a company requests something to be taken down, the person does have the opportunity to present his case right?[/quote]
You know that's exactly what SOPA's trying to destroy, right?[/quote]

No there's definitely a hearing process. A site wouldn't be taken down without a legal hearing.

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 9:00 pm
by Awali
So many internet site's are blacked out today D:<

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 11:17 pm
by SimbaKovu
[quote="Wrightfan"][quote="NEStalgiaFox"][quote="Wrightfan"] You know that if a company requests something to be taken down, the person does have the opportunity to present his case right?[/quote]
You know that's exactly what SOPA's trying to destroy, right?[/quote]

No there's definitely a hearing process. A site wouldn't be taken down without a legal hearing.[/quote]
Keep telling yourself that. Denial and ignorance among the public is essential to a government being able to extend its control over the public's daily lives.

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 18th, 2012, 11:27 pm
by Regulus
[quote="Wrightfan"][quote="NEStalgiaFox"][quote="Wrightfan"] You know that if a company requests something to be taken down, the person does have the opportunity to present his case right?[/quote]
You know that's exactly what SOPA's trying to destroy, right?[/quote]

No there's definitely a hearing process. A site wouldn't be taken down without a legal hearing.[/quote]

Under the current system, yes. But SOPA would completely bypass the due process of law.

Not to mention, that from a technical perspective, it won't even work. There's always a way around anything. Pirates will find it. I'd bet that they'd find a solution to work around the censorship in less than 3 days, by using encryption, proxies, etc.

You just can't mess with the internet.

Re: The SOPA bill

PostPosted: January 19th, 2012, 1:44 am
by Ultra Fox
[quote="Wrightfan"][quote="NEStalgiaFox"][quote="Wrightfan"] You know that if a company requests something to be taken down, the person does have the opportunity to present his case right?[/quote]
You know that's exactly what SOPA's trying to destroy, right?[/quote]

No there's definitely a hearing process. A site wouldn't be taken down without a legal hearing.[/quote]
Right now that's true, but the point of SOPA is to take away that legal hearing and to go right into immediate action.