Human Overpopulation: Fact or Falsehood?

[Woeler]

[quote="Azdgari"]I guess the real question is, what is the optimal population of the Earth?[/quote]

90% of Russia is still free and most of Canada as well.

[Azdgari]

In terms of resources moreso than land, probably.

[Woeler]

[quote="Azdgari"]In terms of resources moreso than land, probably.[/quote]
Resources will run out eventually, there is no ultimate amount of people that can live here. Even if one person lived on earth, the resources would have dried out someday. It will just bring the moment closer. But yes I think we might get in trouble with resources, but that is just the way we humans live now.

[Regulus]

[quote="Woeler1"][quote="Azdgari"]In terms of resources moreso than land, probably.[/quote]
Resources will run out eventually, there is no ultimate amount of people that can live here. Even if one person lived on earth, the resources would have dried out someday. It will just bring the moment closer. But yes I think we might get in trouble with resources, but that is just the way we humans live now.[/quote]

Not exactly. You're forgetting that even 'non-renewable' resources have a regeneration rate. It's just a very slow one, compared to the rate at which the resource is used.

[Kopalover]

Since we recently did a study of this in my classes. I'd like to take input here.
There is an earth like planet out there. It's within our Galaxy but out of reach for now. It is way larger than Earth. With Over-Population reaching its limit in the next century or two, they would start building ships very soon to travel there. Bringing the best scientist there first to tests its living quality, then once they give the go, I believe they'll start bringing some of the population piece by piece to this new Earth.
Though, for now I'm pretty sure they're still even trying to figure out the mode of transportation. So I don't believe I see our generations going to this new earth..

[Woeler]

[quote="Kopalover"]Since we recently did a study of this in my classes. I'd like to take input here.
There is an earth like planet out there. It's within our Galaxy but out of reach for now. It is way larger than Earth. With Over-Population reaching its limit in the next century or two, they would start building ships very soon to travel there. Bringing the best scientist there first to tests its living quality, then once they give the go, I believe they'll start bringing some of the population piece by piece to this new Earth.
Though, for now I'm pretty sure they're still even trying to figure out the mode of transportation. So I don't believe I see our generations going to this new earth..[/quote]

Since this planet is lightyears away(i believe 21), and we simply can not travel faster than light, it would take us at least 21 years with the most optimized form a of transport (which we do not posses), this means we need to freeze human beings for the journey (also a technology we do not posses). Bringing a lot of people to this planet is highly unlikely because we would need to freeze them all and build lot of superexpenisve spaceships with a lot of fuel (which we simply dont have). The most likely scenario is that somewhere in the next millenium we will reach that planet and the only way to colonize it is to get people there and get them to get kids. If this were to solve overpopulation that would mean that everyone on earth should suddenly stop getting kids because oherwise the population would still grow.

[Sigurd]

[quote="Woeler"][quote="Azdgari"]I guess the real question is, what is the optimal population of the Earth?[/quote]

90% of Russia is still free and most of Canada as well.[/quote]

But you still need to provide them with food and houses and so on. You can't just put them anywhere just because no one lives there. And how do you think the canadians and the russians would react. If we put a lot of people there, they will soon become a political force, maybe they wants to seperate from Canada or Russia, that will probably cause a conflict.

[Regulus]

In Soviet Russia, land settles on people.

The Canadians would probably be okay with it, though.

[Woeler]

[quote="Simbaist"][quote="Woeler"][quote="Azdgari"]I guess the real question is, what is the optimal population of the Earth?[/quote]

90% of Russia is still free and most of Canada as well.[/quote]

But you still need to provide them with food and houses and so on. You can't just put them anywhere just because no one lives there. And how do you think the canadians and the russians would react. If we put a lot of people there, they will soon become a political force, maybe they wants to seperate from Canada or Russia, that will probably cause a conflict.[/quote]
Internationalism is on the rise (unfortunately). Countries and borders will probably not exist anymore in approx. 500 years.

[SlayerOfLight]

There are bigger worries then so-called overpopulation. It's not like the damn governments ever run out of money to build houses anyway, especially after so many people lost their home because of that economic crisis which no single government seems to care about. Such a ''beautifull'' world we live in, right?